Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: Post-Credits Scene Explained! Who Are the Three Kang? Who is Victor Timely?
In addition to the actual ending, Ant-Man, and the Wasp: Quantumania has two extra scenes that help shed light on who will be the protagonists of Phase 5 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). As usual in Marvel cinecomics, the film has two additional scenes during a mid-credit and a post-credit, or two clips placed in the middle and at the end of the credits. Both are relevant in terms of the plot and see the appearance of important characters in the Marvel world. Thanks to the post-credit scenes of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania it is possible to make some hypotheses about the future of Phase 5 of the MCU and the subsequent films which, as a title, will see the return of Kang. You can find them along with the rest of the Marvel Studios news in the Marvel 2023 release calendar.
Thanks to the extra scenes of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania it is possible to make some hypotheses about the future of Phase 5 of the MCU and the subsequent films which, as a title, will see the return of Kang. You can find them along with the rest of the Marvel Studios news in the Marvel 2023 release calendar.
Who Are the Three Kang in the Post-Credit Scene of Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?
The villain of Quantumania is Kang, one of the best-known in the Marvel universe, who already appeared in the Loki miniseries. It is revealed to us during the film that this version is called Kang the Conqueror. This is a different Kang from the one that appeared in Loki, known as the Remainer and presumably dead. The first extra scene reveals how the Conqueror ended up in the Quantum Realm.
The scene opens with an arena populated by hundreds of people. Observing them are three figures who talk to each other, commenting on the news of the “exile who has been defeated”. We understand that they refer precisely to Kang Conqueror, just beaten by Ant-Man. The three figures are three variants of Kang. The scene suggests that among the three there is a coalition that has led to the victory over the Conqueror and his exile.
The three Kangs appear for the first time in the MCU, so now, they are known only to readers of Marvel comics. These are Rama-Tut, Immortus, and probably Scarlet Centurion.
Surely Rama-tut is the one with the ancient Egyptian pharaoh’s headdress: in the comics, he traveled back in time to become king in ancient Egypt. The other Kang to appear is certainly Immortus, the one with the tall purple hat. He seems to be in charge, or at least the one who manipulates others. Then there is a third Kang who could be Scarlett Centurion, who in the film has armor that is somewhat reminiscent of Iron Man. The design seen in the film is very different from that of the comics and perhaps it is a different version of the character. In the comics, this Kang wears armor similar to that of Doctor Doom. This version of Kang does not utter a word and is the only one of the three whose identity can be doubted. Alternatively, it could be Iron Lad, a younger Kang who in Marvel comics has good intentions.
It is he who reveals to his companions that he has summoned all the versions he knows of Kang, among which we also see a Skrull. What worries the Kangs is the interference of “certain people” in the timeline and the Multiverse. The reference is clear: with the victory over Kang the Conqueror and the elimination (or presumed elimination) of the One who Remains, the heroes of the Earth are actively impacting the balance of the multiverses and the dominion of the Kang, now intending to stop them.
The Council of Kangs
The first post-credit scene shows us the Council of Kang, a pivotal moment for the Conqueror who brings all his variants to himself, summoning them to decide what the next moves will be. In the scene we are also able to see what his original form was, namely, that of an Egyptian pharaoh: Kang, in fact, was introduced in Marvel comics in this form, only to later return in the form we know now. In October 1963, however, in the Fantastic Four series, Pharaoh Rama-Tut, a criminal from the year 3000, presented himself as having traveled back in time to conquer Egypt with the knowledge of tomorrow. He won’t call himself Kang yet, but he will introduce himself as a descendant of Doctor Doom and, most likely, also a relative of Reed Richards, the founder of the Fantastic Four.
The existence of the Council of Kang is revealed after the Secret Wars, of which we will have a television series soon within the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The continuous travel through time had generated, on the part of the Conqueror, a series of alternative versions of himself, ending up deeming it necessary to convene a Council that could control all of this. The reason why the pharaoh, in the post-credits scene of Ant-Man 3, decides to summon him is that Scott Lang has just killed the variant of him exiled to quantum space. Not at all welcome aspect, having happened at the hands of an Avengers.
Among the Kang who present themselves to the Council, it is also possible to find a figure who seems to look a lot like Mister Gryphon, an incarnation of Nathaniel Richards, who in Marvel publishing history has had space as CEO of Qeng Enterprises. Instead, alongside the aforementioned Rama-Tut we find Immortus, the future version of the pharaoh himself, as well as of Kang. Finally, the third would seem to be Scarlet Centurion, but somehow it is much closer to Kid Immortus due to the colors of his armor: also in this case we are faced with a new variant of the Conqueror, who assumes this identity after the failure of Iron Lad, who wears armor very similar to that of Iron Man and will have a romantic relationship with Cassie Lang(yes, Scott Lang’s daughter). In this version, in fact, Kang sets up the Young Avengers, of which Stature, daughter of Ant-Man, is a part.
Iron Lad’s downfall coincides with the Young Avengers warning him that his actions will eventually lead to him becoming just like Kang the Conqueror, prompting Nathaniel Richards to assume the name Kid Immortus after vanishing into the timestream. In this capacity, he will find himself providing Doctor Doom with information about the Future Foundation, the new formation of the Fantastic Four, as well as starting a new relationship with Ravonna Renslayer, who appeared in the television series Loki and played by Gugu Mbatha-Raw, despite being in an alternative version of it.
Kang and Loki: What Happens in the Second Post-Credit Scene
The second extra scene of Quantumania seems like a sort of prologue to the second season of the Disney+ Loki miniseries. The protagonists of the scene are Loki and Mobius. We are at an unspecified point in the past, but from the clothes, it seems to be on Earth, in the theater of an English-speaking country, at the end of the 19th century.
Loki looks in surprise towards the stage where he contemplates Victor Timely, the fifth version of Kang to appear in the film Quantumania, appear. Loki seems really scared by his presence, even though Victor is just giving some kind of public speaking and seems like a quiet human entrepreneur. Mobius watches the scene surprised and asks Loki if that’s the guy who told him to be dangerous.
Who is Victor Timely? He is a Divergent Kang, a version of Kang Prime or Kang the Conqueror created to travel to the past. In Marvel Comics, Victor Timely is the Kang most interested in Earth as we know it and in the present time.
Over the years it has been revealed that her very presence on Earth as an entrepreneur has proved crucial. It was Victor Timely himself who indirectly stimulated some technological advances in the twentieth century, as an entrepreneur at the head of numerous companies. Not only that: his own companies have had connections with scientists and companies where some Marvel superheroes work, some of which appeared in Loki. We do not have precise information on what his relationship is with the other Kang of the film, in which timeline he is, and if and when he had contact with the One who Remains, the Kang met Loki.
Victor Timely and His Progeny
The second post-credit scene comes exactly at the end of the whole string of credits and puts us in front of a new character, a new variant of Kang, called Victor Timely. Returning from time travel up to 1901, he decided to move to a town called Timely and which is located in Wisconsin, making it his own base of operations and of which, among other things, he becomes mayor. His appearance had already been anticipated by a well-known insider, Daniel Richtman, and is now confirmed by the second post-credit scene.
After seeing him in action, the shot moves to Loki, who was the first to meet Kang in his television series distributed on Disney+. Accompanied by Mobius M. Mobius (played by Owen Wilson), the god of deception will continue to try to convince the now former Time Variance Authority executive of the impending danger that is about to unleash not only on Earth but also on the whole multiverse after having a first contact with Kang. However, Mobius does not seem entirely convinced when he finds himself in front of Timely, who appears to him as a harmless being simply dedicated to entertainment shows for the citizens who populate the Wisconsin village. Yet, as Scott Lang has just learned, something terrible lurks in Victor’s mind.
Timely is not a minor characteristic within the Marvel editorial production, on the contrary. The fact that Kang decides to take on those features is the result of the defeat recorded after the clash with Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. Convinced that he can recover from scratch, he shows up on January 1, 1901, in Wisconsin, also becoming a successful entrepreneur with his Timely Industries, far ahead of the times in robotic sciences, which he begins to teach to his employees. In 1929 that figure will then be replaced by Timely Junior, who will join Phineas Horton, the creator of the original Human Torch, whose body will then be used to create Vision.
The Timely lineage continued to allow Kang to continue to extend his career inconspicuously and avoid being thought of as an immortal being in the eyes of humans. Inevitably in the second season of Loki, it will end up being part of the fulcrum that will unfold around the figure of Kang and the clash with the god of deception will be inevitable, telling us something concretely new and never explored in the Marvel world.
